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Mar 27, 2011

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This was a well informative post. I am just hoping that everything which was happening will be over and Gadhafi will now realize what he was doing. The U. N. is now doing their best just to make sure that the life in Libya will soon back to normal.

During the Clinton administration, the President was informed that our agents had located Osama Bin Laden in an alQaeda camp in the mountains of Afghanistan. They asked if they should go ahead and blow it up. Clinton asked if there were civilians there and was told there were at least 350 children. The President said 'no'. On some level I know he made the right choice, the moral and ethical decision. Would my son be alive if he had given the order to kill Bin Laden and all those children? I don't know, maybe. Do I wish the President had made the wrong choice? Yes, I do. I want my son back. Would my son agree with me? I don't think so. But if he were here, I'd be happy to argue the point with him.

We sometimes labor under the mistaken assumption that the right choice is the perfect choice. The reality is that even the best correct choices are never perfect. Too often there are bad results from both the "correct" and "incorrect" choice. Sometimes we can only choose the less-bad, in the hope that by commitment to our ideals, we will move at least incrementally closer to those ideals. Just as we have to live with the consequences of our bad choices, we also have to suffer with the bad results of our good choices. When the "bad result" is jeopardy to ourselves, it requires courage. When the "bad result" is jeopardy to someone else, we can (and probably should) feel guilt. This is the seductive power of violence -- the Faustian bargain, the short-term vs. long-term trade. But the problem with the short-term, is that the long-term always, inevitably, follows.

John

re: "Bruce, what if we had allowed Hitler to keep on killing? Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrible, but the alternative would have been worse. We had to stop Hitler and we had to end the war in Japan and we have to stop Qaddafi now from murdering his own people."

I believe our entry into WW11 came after we were attacked at Pearl Harbor. We weren't sending our soldiers to die to save anyone's lives. [Remember how cruelly the Jewish refugees were treated?] Our economic interests were threatened by the submarine warfare in the Atlantic hampering both imports and arms exports. It had little to do with protecting anyone except the fat cat bankers and arms manufacturers whose fortunes were threatened.

Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were cruel overreactions. We were kicking the hell out of the Japanese Army, Navy, and Air Force, and the end was coming soon. By the time those citizens were burned in our hell the Pacific Islands were falling one by one. Japan was being beaten back to its tiny mainland.

Choosing who to kill today? Not in my job description.
b

excellent point about the soldiers of Gadhafi.
The media often portrays wars as a coalition led by the US, against 1 evil person - bin Laden, Hussein, Gadhafi, and some of their henchmen.
What about all the civilians or 18 yr old kid-soldiers on these leaders 'side', be they misled or forced?
Also, who is leading the opposing side of this uprising? Are we so positive they will treat the citizens better?
Hopefully they will...

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